Bottom 1024 — Week 29 — Poll 2

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Which of these two games is NOT QUITE THE BEST BUT DOESN'T DESERVE THIS FATE (YET...)?

898 — Mega Man 7 (1995, SNES)
3
43%
1151 — Romance of the Three Kingdoms (1985, NES)
4
57%
 
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Welcome to the #BGE2020 Elimination Round Lower Bracket!

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MM7 is very close to the worst entry in the series, which isn't terrible because the series is good, but it's not great.

RTK1 isn't as great as its standout immediate sequel (the quality jump from 1 to 2 is amazing), but the core gameplay is all there, and it has the iconic series music in 8-bit glory.

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The game that started it all - my Dad went out to the grocery store and we asked him to rent us an NES game while he was out (remember when you could rent video games at a grocery store?). He came back with RTK I. Who knows if I ever would have become interested in Chinese language and history without that. None of that has anything to do with how good of a game it is, of course, but MM7 is not a great MM game.
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That's a hell of a random NES game to bring back from a grocery store. Pretty awesome, though!

I'm trying to remember if I played this before the likes of Civ 1 or Pool of Radiance, all of which were formative strategy fan development games for me. I'm pretty sure I went RTK -> Civ -> Gold Box though.
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Hate to be annoying about this, but even a lower-half Mega Man game is really great stuff. But y'all know how I feel about that.

If R3K is as good as y'all say, I certainly won't begrudge it beating MM7. I just seriously doubt I would like it more.
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Claytone wrote: 04 Apr 2023 17:27 Hate to be annoying about this, but even a lower-half Mega Man game is really great stuff. But y'all know how I feel about that.

If R3K is as good as y'all say, I certainly won't begrudge it beating MM7. I just seriously doubt I would like it more.
Yeah I acknowledged that a lower-tenth MM game is still good. And you're right, there's no chance you would like RTK1 more than MM7. There might be a later RTK game that you like more than your least-favourite MM though... we'll find out one of these days.
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Kong Wen wrote: 04 Apr 2023 18:03 Yeah I acknowledged that a lower-tenth MM game is still good. And you're right, there's no chance you would like RTK1 more than MM7. There might be a later RTK game that you like more than your least-favourite MM though... we'll find out one of these days.
Yeah, I reckon I oughta give one a shot eventually!

Also to be clear, I actually would go to bat for MM7 as a stronger Mega Man. I liked it a lot and was surprised as I played it that it was considered one of the "worst" ones. I think 8 is the pretty obvious worst (still good, but only just). MM2, 3, and 9 are elite, and then I think it's REALLY tough to rank them from there. I'd probably have to play them all back-to-back to have them fresh enough in my mind to really make a call there. But suffice it to say I think MM7 would land higher on my list than yours (and possibly most people's).

If nothing else, MM7 gets big points from me for this: :)

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Claytone wrote: 05 Apr 2023 06:17 Also to be clear, I actually would go to bat for MM7 as a stronger Mega Man. I liked it a lot and was surprised as I played it that it was considered one of the "worst" ones. I think 8 is the pretty obvious worst (still good, but only just). MM2, 3, and 9 are elite, and then I think it's REALLY tough to rank them from there. I'd probably have to play them all back-to-back to have them fresh enough in my mind to really make a call there. But suffice it to say I think MM7 would land higher on my list than yours (and possibly most people's).
I'd probably go something like:

2 > 9 > 3 > 4=10 > 5=6 > 7 > 8

It's hard to rank MM1 because it's not very good, so it depends on what the criteria are. If it's solely in terms of how much I enjoy it, then it's probably anywhere in that 4=10 > 5=6 range. It gets shifted higher to the left if it's BGE criteria for importance and impact/influence.
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Kong Wen wrote: 05 Apr 2023 15:54
Claytone wrote: 05 Apr 2023 06:17 Also to be clear, I actually would go to bat for MM7 as a stronger Mega Man. I liked it a lot and was surprised as I played it that it was considered one of the "worst" ones. I think 8 is the pretty obvious worst (still good, but only just). MM2, 3, and 9 are elite, and then I think it's REALLY tough to rank them from there. I'd probably have to play them all back-to-back to have them fresh enough in my mind to really make a call there. But suffice it to say I think MM7 would land higher on my list than yours (and possibly most people's).
I'd probably go something like:

2 > 9 > 3 > 4=10 > 5=6 > 7 > 8

It's hard to rank MM1 because it's not very good, so it depends on what the criteria are. If it's solely in terms of how much I enjoy it, then it's probably anywhere in that 4=10 > 5=6 range. It gets shifted higher to the left if it's BGE criteria for importance and impact/influence.
You missed 11 as well ;)

Was just going to note that I like MM1. Largely agree with your rankings though…would place 1 between 3 and 4. 11 is quite good, though.
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Sharecrow wrote: 05 Apr 2023 15:59
Kong Wen wrote: 05 Apr 2023 15:54 I'd probably go something like:

2 > 9 > 3 > 4=10 > 5=6 > 7 > 8

It's hard to rank MM1 because it's not very good, so it depends on what the criteria are. If it's solely in terms of how much I enjoy it, then it's probably anywhere in that 4=10 > 5=6 range. It gets shifted higher to the left if it's BGE criteria for importance and impact/influence.
You missed 11 as well ;)

Was just going to note that I like MM1. Largely agree with your rankings though…would place 1 between 3 and 4. 11 is quite good, though.
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