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I've heard otherwise.Kong Wen wrote:Oooh, that's not a good sign. Super Paper Mario is pretty awful. I was hoping to spend some more time with the earlier entries, but I'll pass if they're anything like that turd.The Shoemaker wrote:I thought Thousand Year Door and Super Paper Mario were just as great as the original.
I have, too. That's pretty much the only reason I considered going back to them.Slurmee wrote:I've heard otherwise.Kong Wen wrote:Oooh, that's not a good sign. Super Paper Mario is pretty awful. I was hoping to spend some more time with the earlier entries, but I'll pass if they're anything like that turd.The Shoemaker wrote:I thought Thousand Year Door and Super Paper Mario were just as great as the original.
It's not similar, just similar in quality, which is subjective to your enjoyment :p Thousand Year Door is very much like the original, but better in my opinion, just a natural evolution.Kong Wen wrote:Oooh, that's not a good sign. Super Paper Mario is pretty awful. I was hoping to spend some more time with the earlier entries, but I'll pass if they're anything like that turd.The Shoemaker wrote:I thought Thousand Year Door and Super Paper Mario were just as great as the original.
Yeah, in that case I think a lot of my problem with the game will be specific to that genre change (the game's platforming focus). I found the gameplay really sluggish, and the progression of the game as a whole quite slow. It was a weak platformer and a weak RPG, so their intended mix didn't work well. I also thought the 3D gimmick/mechanic, in practice, was limited to a "is there something here?" switch. It just felt tired and cumbersome.The Shoemaker wrote:It's not similar, just similar in quality, which is subjective to your enjoyment :p Thousand Year Door is very much like the original, but better in my opinion, just a natural evolution.
Super Paper Mario is awesome, but it's not really an RPG, I guess more of an action/adventure game. Hilarious dialogue, great music, lots of secrets to be found due to switching from 2D to 3D. My favourite part in that game was when you getSpoiler
a game over and you're basically sent to hell and you have to fight your way out.
Definitely, I think that's what a lot of people's issues were. The traditional Paper Mario gameplay is pretty good, just simple RPG turn based commands with button inputs to spice things up. The extra level of interaction and visual flare make battles a little less cumbersome than they can be in traditional RPG's. Paper Mario has always excelled at making the overworld interesting as well, rather than being a place to go from point A to B.Kong Wen wrote:Yeah, in that case I think a lot of my problem with the game will be specific to that genre changeThe Shoemaker wrote:It's not similar, just similar in quality, which is subjective to your enjoyment :p Thousand Year Door is very much like the original, but better in my opinion, just a natural evolution.
Super Paper Mario is awesome, but it's not really an RPG, I guess more of an action/adventure game. Hilarious dialogue, great music, lots of secrets to be found due to switching from 2D to 3D. My favourite part in that game was when you getSpoiler
a game over and you're basically sent to hell and you have to fight your way out.
I can't defend Sticker Star too much, it's easily the weakest of the 4. I enjoyed my time with it - but it was a free download, so I didn't have any buyers remorse. If anyone is looking to try out Paper Mario, Sticker Star isn't a great place to start despite still having a lot of the charm and well designed environments the series is known for. It's also incredibly annoying to play without a guide, which is a serious design flaw.evildevil97 wrote:When it comes to Mario RPGs, nothing has touched Thousand Year Door. And it pains me to say that, as I adore the SNES SMRPG. That being said, I think Super Paper Mario doesn't get the respect it deserves. It's not a proper Paper Mario game, but if you go in expecting it to be different, it's a great game in its own right. Sticker Star still sucks though.
I personally thought Super Paper Mario was alright, but it wasn't an outstanding game to me. It was kind of like a 6 or 7/10 decent game.evildevil97 wrote:When it comes to Mario RPGs, nothing has touched Thousand Year Door. And it pains me to say that, as I adore the SNES SMRPG. That being said, I think Super Paper Mario doesn't get the respect it deserves. It's not a proper Paper Mario game, but if you go in expecting it to be different, it's a great game in its own right. Sticker Star still sucks though.
Thousand Year Door was Gamecube though.Jordan wrote:I personally thought Super Paper Mario was alright, but it wasn't an outstanding game to me. It was kind of like a 6 or 7/10 decent game.evildevil97 wrote:When it comes to Mario RPGs, nothing has touched Thousand Year Door. And it pains me to say that, as I adore the SNES SMRPG. That being said, I think Super Paper Mario doesn't get the respect it deserves. It's not a proper Paper Mario game, but if you go in expecting it to be different, it's a great game in its own right. Sticker Star still sucks though.
I loved Super Mario RPG but it doesn't hold a candle to the first two Paper Mario games imo. It's not even fair to compare them since they came out at much different times.
One thing I find kind of funny is that the Playstation had all these amazing JRPGs, but I would honestly rank the two Paper Mario RPGs above nearly all of them. Unfortunately...the two Paper Mario RPGs were all the N64 had....