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Re: Fire Emblem Discussion

Posted: 17 Mar 2017 21:23
by Jordan
I don't have any of the bonus units for this arena season except Jagen. That forces me to use him even though he's deadweight.

He's also on my 4 cav team for the training tower quest though. I use him alongside Elise, Gunter and Frederick.

Re: Fire Emblem Discussion

Posted: 17 Mar 2017 21:33
by Kong Wen
Jordan wrote:I don't have any of the bonus units for this arena season except Jagen. That forces me to use him even though he's deadweight.

He's also on my 4 cav team for the training tower quest though. I use him alongside Elise, Gunter and Frederick.
Those 10th Stratum quests are going to be absolutely killer. Beat a team of 5-star lunatics with a dumb theme team without anyone dying? I might be able to swing it with infantry, and maybe, maaaaybe with cavalry, but the other two are not going to happen.

Re: Fire Emblem Discussion

Posted: 17 Mar 2017 22:10
by Jordan
Yeah I'm not even bothering with the fliers or armored units. I barely have any characters in either category, rendering it an exercise in futility. I did try summoning in the hopes I would get some decent characters in either category, but I just got a bunch of crap.

If I had rolled something like a 5* Camilla, Catria or Minerva, the fliers one might have been doable. Ditto if I had rolled Hector or Effie. Without those, that quest is just pointless.

By the way, a tip for cheesing the quests: You can do the starting stratum quest for 1 SP and then surrender to reset all the unit layouts in the training tower. I think you can also reset those by spending a duel sword in the arena. You could reset until you have a favorable match for your team.

Re: Fire Emblem Discussion

Posted: 17 Mar 2017 23:12
by Kong Wen
Jordan wrote:By the way, a tip for cheesing the quests: You can do the starting stratum quest for 1 SP and then surrender to reset all the unit layouts in the training tower. I think you can also reset those by spending a duel sword in the arena. You could reset until you have a favorable match for your team.
Yeah, good call. For Armored, you'd want a 3-4 unit map with no Tomes/Dragons.
I'm power-levelling a couple Armored units just in case I can somehow make it work. I want to try the quest that needs 7-5 with 4 Armored too.

I've gotten my 5* Effie up to 35 today, and she can probably do most of the work. I've got a 4* Draug and 4* Gwen both around 25, and then some trash Gwen who's only 18 or so, but she'll have to do. So if I get everyone levelled in time and find a decent matchup I might be able to make that one work.

I have a couple decent fliers, but really just Camilla and then a bunch of passable blues, certainly not enough to fight against lunatic opponents.

What core team do you find you have the most success with in the arena these days?

Re: Fire Emblem Discussion

Posted: 18 Mar 2017 00:35
by Jordan
Last week it was Ephraim, Azura, Nino and Jagen (Jagen just to get the bonus points). I managed to get through 7 rounds on advanced with no losses with that team.

This week I am not having the same luck. I keep flubbing it up in one round or another and my highest score has only been 4,372 or so. I'm trying different combinations, such as replacing Azura with Selena, but still no dice so far.

Before those weeks it was Ephraim, Azura, Nino and Lyndis.

Next week it will probably be...Azama, Azura, Nino and Selena...or something like that. Possibly replace Azama with Ursula. Possibly replace Selena or Azura with Ephraim, depending on what I am having the most difficulty with.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C7GrMWkU4AAF5dB.jpg:large

Re: Fire Emblem Discussion

Posted: 18 Mar 2017 00:43
by Kong Wen
I sometimes win a couple in a row with no deaths, but my total 7-game run usually has a few rounds with 1-2 deaths. I think my best score is 3920 so far. So close to another reward tier. Anyway, it's nice that they've boosted the feather reward spread, so you're getting like 2500 plus defense bonuses for good streaks! Add the 215/day and you're looking at a 5-star promote about every month.

Hmm, with those bonus heroes I'd probably have to use Ursula, Lucina, Nino, and Takumi. I do have a 4* Lon'qu I can put into the meat grinder to pass Vantage 3 over to Takumi. Nothing really interesting for the others though.

Still jealous of your Azura! I guess I could try to include Olivia, but her stat total is pretty low.

Re: Fire Emblem Discussion

Posted: 18 Mar 2017 00:55
by Jordan
Olivia is a character who is worth 5 starring, especially in conjunction with Nino. Aside from dance+draw back shenanigans, she also benefits Nino by giving Gronnblade 6 extra damage with Hone Attack 3.

Re: Fire Emblem Discussion

Posted: 18 Mar 2017 01:01
by Kong Wen
Jordan wrote:Olivia is a character who is worth 5 starring, especially in conjunction with Nino. Aside from dance+draw back shenanigans, she also benefits Nino by giving Gronnblade 6 extra damage with Hone Attack 3.
Hone Attack 3 is pretty much the only thing she gets between a 3-star and 5-star version... besides a bunch of stats, I guess. I wish I had the luxury of dumping that many feathers into her. When I'm spending hundreds of orbs trying to summon Ike, maybe I'll end up with a 5-star Olivia by accident. :)

Dance & Draw Back shenanigans sure are fun, though. I even got to play with some Dance + Draw Back + Smite shenanigans while bringing Effie up through the ranks today.

Re: Fire Emblem Discussion

Posted: 18 Mar 2017 10:00
by Jordan
Yeah, dance+draw back has been my strategy since almost the beginning. I was very fortunate to have gotten a good Azura and a good Nino. The rest of my luck has been abysmal, but that's all I've needed anyways. It's not uncommon for Nino to just kill every unit on a map for me.

I FINALLY managed a perfect run on the advanced arena this week. It took me so many tries this time despite the last few weeks being a lot simpler. I HATE that dual bridge map with every fiber of my being. It probably becomes more manageable if you have a flier with reposition. Without that, though, it's extremely obnoxious, especially if the enemy piles on the ranged units. The lava stage is marginally better, but still an enormous pain. My team for the run was Selena, Nino, Azura and Jagen.

Both stages probably become more manageable if you have like 2-3 ranged units on your team. With only one and assuming the enemy has 1-3, they are pure hell.

Re: Fire Emblem Discussion

Posted: 18 Mar 2017 17:38
by Kong Wen
The Bridges stage is still hell if you have two. I was running RobinF and Takumi. The Lava stage is not as bad because you can kite them into the chokepoint and the AI is usually too bad to be in position to counter after you take one of them out.

The problem with the reposition strat is that you'd need to bring a flier with you all the time, basically for one map, and archers are frighteningly prevalent. Any flier I would have to include would be worse than a key unit.

If I'm going to dance & draw back, I'm going to have to 5-Star Sharena before I 5-Star Olivia. Last unit could be maybe Lucina (Eirika is better for buffing, but I don't have her) or Takumi. Maybe even Effie, since Nino's doing all the killing, so Effie can just be a wall if needed.

I ran into my first teams of multiple skill-inherited units last night. Vantage as far as the eye could see. Vantage Hectors, Vantage Takumis, etc,

EDIT: My collector instincts are kicking in. I'm only sacrificing units for skill inheritance if I have a duplicate. :D